What a difference a dedicated center solo seat made! Last Visit: 12/08/2020 04:07PM Sort by. I plan to use it for solo tripping. I think if a person took a Wenonah Adirondack, a Quetico 16, and a composite Explorer, threw them in a big pot, then mixed them together you would get this boat. Remember it being reported here that they were tightening up on maximum canoe size after an increase in problems. … then he’ll buy some more canoes, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, -- Last Updated: Jun-24-06 8:38 PM EST --, http://www.pbase.com/ozarkpaddler/ranger_canoe. Mick, Just checked Spring Creek.They have in stock some used Souris 17s, but no 16s. “Just” if you pack carefully.Capacity ratings can be deceptive. Souris River Canoes. Quetico 17 – 17’ 3” 44lbs. I know you’ve spent time in lots of these boats and owned a number of them. Because both boats were rated the same capacity, I think you would be fine with the Quetico 16 if your load is no more than 600 lbs. What a nice looking canoe – pretty lines. Souris River makes a fine canoe. Jami Philip, 42, an Assistant City Clerk in Scandia, Minnesota, loves her Souris River Quetico 17. The one I test paddled was nice. I did listen for a change and passed on the Prospector. Is a Souris River Quetico 17 decent on rivers? This canoe is fast and incredibly stable. As I recall, the Souris is a bit fuller going toward the ends, and that gives the 17 extra capacity. We have five available, all 2016 models. Sounds GoodThanks Terry. E-mail me, Rob, as I still have access to the my old Quetico 16. http://www.rangercanoe.com/. Trying to get extra seat for 16 I was told to go to Souris direct. Contact (888) 266-6386. You’re really looking for an unusual boat, a 16 footer that can carry two guys and gear for a week and also be an efficient solo cruiser. The site: http://www.canoegear.com/html/ look under “canoes” and then both "other"s Then I thought wait a minute, I’ve used a Wenonah Adirondack has a 19.5" bow and I believe 16" stern. New price is the current season retail price. Please try again later. Grand Marais, Minnesota 55604, For a free brochure or to make a reservation: We rented a Bell Northwind in Kev lite and it handled things just fine. Let me know, maybe we can meet somewhere and you could try both boats. So he donated it to an auction for the Northern Forest Canoe Trail and bought a pair of Souris River Queticos, a 16-footer for solo trips and a 17-footer for tandem paddling. As a result it is excellent for both novices & experienced paddlers. But from the little I know about the Souris hulls, I think you could get maybe 580 pounds in the boat with a good handling margin. After three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. Used kevlar solo canoe perfect for fisherman or people bring along a load for extended wilderness camping. Really happy with mine. http://www.pbase.com/ozarkpaddler/ranger_canoe. Author. Docking describes the Quetico 18.5 as “middle of the road,” an “ideal compromise between stability and speed.” “It’s a mum, dad and two kids kind of boat. SweetThanks for all the photos Terry. Had a lengthy post and lost it, I think P.net went off-line for awhile. Wish I had the chance to test drive one or two. For sale our 2020 rental fleet of reconditioned 16', 17', and 18.5' Souris River Canoes Tucked away for the winter in our retail store. The Quetico 16 also makes an excellent solo canoe. The Quetico 17 is our best selling model, and for good reason. Up sizing the plane can cost a lot more! As for stability, if the hulls are very similar and of equal beam, the 16’ hull will be a bit less stable than the 17’ hull. In looking at various kevlar tripping canoes I see that the Q 16 is capacity rated similarly to the Bell Northwind kevlar and the Hemlock Eagle and only a little lower than the Q 17. All the new Souris have taken big leaps in price. Boyscout was wanting it, but it's still in the barn. This feature is not available right now. Author. I thought the Q 17 was a fine canoe. If if find a used kevlar in another brand I may jump on it, but if I order a boat it is probably going to be a Souris River Q 16 or 17. Tried the 17.5' Prospector and loved it even in the solo position, BUT several old timers kept telling me normally no more than 16' for soloing. I couldn't find rating on the Mad River Explorer kevlar or the Wenonah Spirit II. That is a pretty cool deal keeping the borrow back rights! We have five available, all 2016 models. If you are going up there anway and can get to Thunder Bay, ON you should find much better prices. We had some great Adirondack canoeing near family in NY last week across 14 lakes/ponds, 4 rivers. The beam is a inch narrower also. >:^) Later when I paddled a new 16 set up as a solo I immediately bought it! Manufacturer's Description: Ever since the Quetico 17 was introduced in the spring of 2000 it has been getting rave reviews from paddlers and outfitters alike. Only complaint I had with the canoe was that when it was unloaded the wind tossed it around. So my question is would the Q 16 have the capacity for a couple of 200 lb. Whether you use this canoe for fishing, day outings or short to medium wilderness tripping, you will be delighted with its versatility. WW My 1st Wenonah. Debbie Mark & Staff I’ve paddled it solo in the BWCAW a half dozen times and about 10-12 times tandem, and sometimes in big stuff, sometimes with a couple big guys. It offers an incredible balance between all of these different functions. I remember talking to you a couple of years ago about your Q 16 but forgot that you still had access to it. Did you get another Adirondak? They are built with wilderness in mind. WW Now, Hellman (who was one of the souris river businesss partners before he went his own way) makes one. The grandkids had an experience they won’t soon forget! Note: * Souris River Canoes new and used models are subject to 5% GST and 6% PST taxes. The ultimate wilderness tripping canoe - ultra-light, incredibly tough and very stable. It’s true that the Quetico 17 is not going to win any beauty contests. I studied the Q 17 bottom when we had them secured for the night on that scout trip, but darned if I remember my impressions about it 3 years later. Its long waterline keeps it tracking straight and makes good time on big lakes. A 39 lb. I have the Ranger Otter and it has a similar feel as the Quetico 16, and Mad River Explorer but IMHO it’s a better paddling boat than ANY of the others mentioned except the Bell’s. I paddle rivers quite often and I do not race. Good to see those Duralites at Spring Creek. Souris River Quetico 17 Kevlar canoes for sale. If you are primarilary going tandum with gear please look at the new 17' Souris. with nothing in the canoe and a stiff wind, you will fight to keep the canoe going where you want it. Some of the specs like the low bow and stern hight and small amout of rocker catch my eye. I know you had some good times with yours. prospector?Souris river used to make a prospector. And the lack of rocker isn’t that big a deal unless on a narrow, twisty stream. I haven’t had the Ranger to the BWCAW yet, and because of my change in health it probably won’t ever take the kind of trips I used to take. Take care. Had a nice long boat discussion with the guy that delivered the canoe (he delivers boats for several manufacturers in the northeast) and he told me the manufacturer of the Ranger was friends with THE Henry’s, so he’s no stranger to canoe hull design. Hull shapeIf I recall correctly from my insomniac surfing last night the Q 16 has a slightly more rounded bottom compared to the Q 17 which is described as flat in the very center. I'll try again tomorrow to retrieve those pics. Belly seems a little bit rounder and the V of the bow and sterm steem about a quarter to a third shorter than the 17s. Used Royalex & Kevlar Canoes For Sale available Sept 2020 Solo, Tandem, 3-Person, and 4-Person from Wenonah, Souris River and Northstar Call: 800-328-3325 | Email: Outfitting@gunflint.com Canoes must be picked up in the fall (mid September to early October 2020) or in the spring (late April Mick. The Quetico 17 has been recognized as the ultimate multi purpose canoe. Lets look into that. ** Le Tigre is a visually impressive color combination of … Souris River Quetico 17 Canoe; souris-river-17; For information or reservations call: 218-388-2216. He’s got a kevlar “Blem” on E-bay for the same as a new 'glass model. I have paddled with my friend a Minnesota II and his Advantage. Canoes are 2016 models and after three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. Thanks for the input. Northwind Northstar 17 vs Souris River Quetico 17 Forum Sponsor. solo canoe that makes sense if you like to fish. at least that was my experience. In the real world of BWCA / Quetico travel I think maximum performance load on my JH18 is 600 lbs, and that’s a hull displacement of about 5". Total WeightI’m just going from the top of my head, but I think my brother and law and I were under 600 lbs on our 7 day trip a couple of years ago. They are the Wilderness 18 and the Quetico 18.5. Here’s a link to some pics of mine, Rob. Souris River Quetico 17 Forum Sponsor. Food was great, equipment top notch and always a friendly smile! My Quetico 17 (green Kevlar, le tigre pattern) is the third addition to my fleet, which includes a Wenonah Sundowner 17 (royalex) and a Souris River Tranquility solo (kevlar). OK, just because a new job will keep me from making a hoped for trip to the BWCAW this summer, doesn't mean I can't dream of lake tripping canoes and plan to order one this offseason. They already want to come back! They still have many, many Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness adventures in them. The 17 has taken over as the main back woods horse with a little more speed and capacity, but is too long for a serious solo boat. My impression was that it was a real sweet paddler but not the gear hauler that the Q 17 was. If you want something small, even if a follow up to a large purchase it is difficult. After three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. (Three if you count the Prospector 17.5). I would say the maneuverability would be similar to the Quetico 16, possibly better. I agree, they look nice. A couple of years ago we tripped out of Atikokan, ON with a scout troop in Q 17's. Text. IMHO it accelerates from a stopped position quicker than any of those, but it isn’t a Bell! 'Ol Blue actually looks white on the bottom, very little gelcoat left. (Best educated guess is loss of new business tax breaks and environmental issues drove prices up. Also, he has a few on E-nay right now. I do not even look at the new ones any longer. 12208 Gunflint Trail The Quetico 18.5 is designed to be a large boat with lots and lots of capacity for gear or a third person. (For other solo options, check-out our Tranquility and our Prospector 16.) The Souris River Quetico 17 Canoe is designed to handle everything a tripper can throw at it. WW. SR hasn’t made the Jensen Huron since 2001. The last Duralite 16 I purchased was right at $1,000, but now is $2,000!) Can’t help but think of the scout trip I was on when we used those. Probably the upper limit of this canoe, but got into some 2-3’ waves on Alder and no problems. Souris River Quetico 16 vs. 17. My Two CentsHave done week long trip in the BWCAW with our old Quetico 16 with me and a friend about your size, Rob. Both are faster than mine but they take more effort to turn. Advice. Tell me about the "combination shallow V/ shallow arch bottom. Paddling Souris River Quetico 16 over large waves. Supports my thinking on the 17’s marginal suitability for soloing. Here’s a link to their website. So well re-conditioned that they are for all intents and purposes, new canoes! Some of the Prospectors on the market might be worth looking over. With the Duralight you do not need the expence of kevlar. When I sold it it was with the understanding that I could use it anytime I liked. Does the V carry back farther to the center than most boats but not all the way? We have five available, all 2016 models. It’s not a question of build quality, but construction method. It would be good if those ended up with a troop – or maybe aluminum is the only way to go there! Try This AgainI’ll make this short and sweet. I decided to trade up for a solo. Kevlar Souris River Quetico 16’2″ Can also be used as a stable solo canoe. July 31, 2020, Seagull Canoe Outfitters Phone: 218-388-2216 Last canoe in stock for the season. InterestingThanks for your thoughts on this, Terry. Anyway this buyer’s guide lists the maximum performance burden (as supposedly recommended by the manufacturer) for both the Q16 and the JH18 at 650 lbs. I Prefer Lower StemsNever been fond of those big 22-24" stems that catch the wind, That said, I like 20" and was a little sqeemish at going down to 19". system. ... Quetico 18.5. Could see getting into trouble in weather if lone paddling. Our largest canoe yet. I'd prefer to own the Q16 because I often solo my tandems and imagine the Q 17 is a bit much to paddle alone. WW, When Terry wins the lottery …first he will buy a real camera to replace that “freakin’ @#$%&! It will not handle as much as the Mad River Explorer or the Spirit II, but will solo much easier than both. Parts for a pack system finally came after a few calls and a wait. Spring Creek and one of the other outfitters had used Souris canoes every year, year around, especially 16s and 17s, but I have not seem them for the last two years. Text. I’ve only test paddled Mad Rivers solo at a demo day, and I paddle mainly healed over Texanadian style so I never really noticed the possible issue of a shallow V rocking from one side to the other as I’ve seen mentioned by some when critiquing the shallow V. models and owned a few, The 16 in particular. Last Visit: 11/28/2020 02:42AM Sort by. It’s hard to describe, but it seemed to have all the attributes of the Explorer hull, but was easier to paddle; so essentially a “Tweaked” Explorer. Prospectors vary quite a bit in speed and maneuverability, but can offer great capacity. Thats a good reminder of the hull shape. I don’t know a whole lot about them, but they look good, and use a similar system of resin/cloth. After three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. Author. Souris River Quetico 17 . I went to another party after doing without my extra seats for the season. These are quite different boats. ThanksThanks for sharing your thoughts and experience Mick. HellmanSaw a fair number of folks with Hellman canoes last September in British Columbia. guys and a weeks gear? Hope helps a little. But, having paddled the other boats loaded and unloaded I think the Ranger would have pretty much the same volume as the Quetico 16 and possibly a hair more than the Adirondack, a bit less than the Explorer. The Prospector 16 also makes an excellent solo canoe. Also, how does the Q 16 compare stability wise? Tried to download pics, but this freakin' @#$%&! Home. I tried a 17 for a short paddle, but did not like it's handling as a solo at all. Estimate of Q16 capacityI have a 2002 Paddler magazine buyer’s guide and my lake tripper is a Souris River Jensen Huron 18. canoes. It certainly looks like the cross winds would bother you less. Your point is well taken on the bow and stern heights. That is very helpful. Stearns Family About the WCA & CCR; Disclaimer; Privacy Policy; Copyright; Site Map; Join WCA It is still just as good as ever. Will make this short as you have a lot of good info already, especially from Terry. There is also the restrictions on which canoe you can strap to a bush plane. A meet up and paddle sounds wonderful. olwaterhound 08/19/2019 12:53PM. HP piece of crap camera” They still have many, many Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness adventures in them. Souris River Canoes builds the highest quality lightweight epoxy-Kevlar canoes available. I’ll take a pic later with the Wenonah Adirondack and it’s shallow arch side by side to compare. I wanted to thank you and your team for a wonderful trip! Think you have the two pegged pretty well. I liked my Souris 16 tandem, but sold it to make room for some solos as I prefer them. 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