Hornady offer’s their Custom line with a 158 grain XTP bullet for the 357 Magnum and a 155 grain XTP for the 10mm. We can see in this head-to-head that the 10mm retains a very slight advantage in terms of energy, but the 357’s overall longer bullet gives it the edge for penetrating power. Which one is more powerful depends more on the individual builds (what cam, heads , intake and exhaust systems are used) of the engines being compared , than the basic designs. I do wound ballistic workshops for a living and shoot a lot of gelatin, made, calibration verified and shot to the FBI protocol. Two loads penetrated cleanly through two full blocks of gelatin (32 inches) without expanding at all. Assuming both are true that would explain the wound profile of both loads. I understand you were trying to match bullet weights for both… but I really don’t think may people carry that heavy a bullet… Read more ». all three will generate over 600 FTLB muzzle energy. The .357 Mag is arguably one of the best man-stoppers in the handgun world. Mike. Five shot velocity average: 1061fps Gel Temperature: 73 degrees. See more from Terril on youtube under Mark3smle. The .357 Magnum is a powerful cartridge, but in this case it takes a narrow 2nd place to the 10mm Auto. We all hear about how terrific the 10mm is, but what if we put it to the test? A .40 S&W IS NOT a “necked down” 10mm as the incompetent author so states. What, exactly, does your ‘modification’ have to do with CCW in most states, pray tell? After looking at the ballistics of both calibers, we see that the 10mm has more kick. I know of no 10 mm shooter… Read more ». Why compare similar weight bullets to see which is more effective within 2 separate calibers? The gibberish I read in gun publications anymore, being touted as “expert”, is always appalling. Just like with most things, it's really a matter of what you intend to use your handgun for. I lined up a Clear Ballistics 10% ordinance gel block and got to work. There very well may be some loads on the chart below that would be ideal for hunting, but we’ll leave it to others to speculate on that topic. This standard has been in use by FBI researchers since the late 1980s, and we’ve highlighted the desired range on our penetration graph in the chart below. By the 1920s, American law enforcement turned away from their various 32 caliber revolvers then common in service for the much more powerful 38 Special cartridge. I also shoot 357. A fairer comparison for the 10mm is the original magnum cartridge, the 357 Magnum. Having said that, 10mm fans should not feel down and blue. Remember that 10mm has lower sectional density. Higher pressure 38 Special revolvers and larger handguns to handle the round resulted until it was decided to develop a brand-new cartridge, the slightly longer yet much more powerful 357 Magnum. The author is incompetent at best. The greater penetration was also aided by the lack of deformation of the hollow-point due to that slightly lower velocity. Physical properties of the two mediums differ in some ways, but they typically provide similar results when testing for penetration and expansion characteristics of handgun ammo. After this test the 180gr 10mm Auto has become my first choice for a carry round in my Glock 20. The 10 is often found using 180 grain bullets while the 357 uses a 125 grain bullet. 10mm pistol. The 357 Magnum’s smaller diameter will make for an inherently longer projectile or higher ballistic coefficient. In fact, there are only two models in current production that we’re aware of: the Glock 29 with a 3.8-inch barrel and the EAA Witness Compact with a 3.6-inch barrel. Pick something and learn how to shoot it well. in the test, huh? That is much when we are talking about handgun velocities. When these bullets are pushed to “real” 10mm velocities, they often do not perform as intended. There are also 7 and 8 round 357 revolvers like S&W’s TTR8 swat revolver (used by police holding shields because of potential semi-automatics malfunctions where the action can get hung up on the shield). Go carry that huge bulky 357 revolver with 6 rounds. Many common 10mm loadings are weakly loaded compared to the round’s true potential and many off the shelf brands are seldom more powerful than the 40 S&W. It was invented to replicate the results of .357mag in a semi-auto, theoretically the best of both worlds. When the author produces such trash and the editor allows it to go to print, well then you open the door to scathing criticism. The 10mm penetration was around 16 inches. The 357mag can reach 2000+ fps. The 10mm had no such trouble as it was stopped in the first block. 3.) What good does it do to have a gun that will have you soaking your gun in hand in epsom salt. The 357 exceeded the recommended maximum of eighteen inches. Carried the .357 for years as my duty weapon. If you’re interested in all the gritty details of how we conducted these tests, you might want to take a look at the test protocols and procedures outlined in the article accompanying our first batch of ballistics gel testing from back in 2015. It promised more power than the 9mm while being faster to reload than the revolvers in standard service at the time. I was always in faver of 45acp that is until I put an RMR on my Glock 19 , as far as defense from humans I really feel you can not beat 9mm with the correct shot placement… with the RMR it’s no problem hitting head shots all day long at quite a distance. This is due, in part, to a lack of advancement in 10mm bullet technology. Test Gun: Glock 20.Barrel length: 4.6 Inches.Ammunition: Federal 10mm 200gr HST.Test media: 10% Vyse Ballistics Gel.Distance: 10 feet.Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.Five shot velocity average: 1078fpsBB Calibration: 3.75inches You are out looking for your trophy Elk like you do every year at this time. One of those two, the 180 gr Federal Trophy Bonded, is a soft point bullet designed to expand on impact but it failed to do so, possibly due to the heavy clothing barrier. Here in Kalifornia, it is the kiss of death. The Coonan is going for a fat ass $1700 to $2800 on the secondary market. Five of the eleven loads we tested met the FBI criteria for penetration and also exhibited good expansion. Despite having a shorter barrel, the 10mm was slightly faster. , It makes my head hurt as well. Seriously, I would say no matter the round you choose for either they are both very good. I certainly wouldn’t carry something as heavy as a 158 grain bullet. will penetrate 4inches of wood and 10 inches of gelatin. Just like the army. In any case, penetration tests should be performed with flat… Read more », Both of these calibers are great and are here to stay…..But for me the Glock 29 in 10mm is one of my favorites as a backup when bow hunting, hiking, fishing, etc. Defense Ammo ? Ammunition: Sellier & Bellot 10mm 180gr JHP. 1911 design with 7+1 or 6+1 with a 5 or 4 ” barrel, I have the glock S&W 40 and 686 6” so I win, I have an AMT .45 Win. Distance: 10 feet. 10mm all day long… With the Glock 20/29 platform, you can also shoot 40 s&w through it. How about throwing in a good .45ACP into the mix with a Hornady 200 grain XTP bullet? Without getting into boutique ammo, why not compare the best of both to see which is more effective (ie. RAM, maybe, but with Killary lovers the real give-away is the hand-knitted vagina hats, too! While the 158 grain weight is fairly standard for a 357, the 155 grain bullet used in the 10mm is slightly light in its typical range. Why not use a 10mm pistol with a shorter barrel to keep the test protocols more consistent? In case this is the first of our gel tests you’ve seen, the chart below is more than just a colorful static spreadsheet. It’s worth noting that the test standards outlined above were developed with human targets in mind. For the money I’m going to go with the 10 for firepower. Same concept as buying a 357, which you can tame down to 38 loads. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare 10mm Auto vs .357 SIG ammo rounds. ). Good basic article; there are, however, flaws that need to be addressed. Some of these five are loaded fairly light for 10mm and are barely distinguishable from a typical .40 S&W load while others are closer to the original “hot” 10mm loads offered in the early days of the caliber’s history. Of course, they are why I would rather carry a crossbow than a Taurus handgun but failures are not rare compared to automatics and the operation of an automatic is largely contingent upon training with the limited number of failures. bullet into gel already damaged by the first shot. The 10mm Auto is a intriguing round in he handgun world. There was a reason the FBI ended up at the .40 S&W, the agents couldn’t You can’t miss fast enough so ‘firepower’ is a non-issue. Our 10mm test gun is a Glock 20 Gen 4 with a 4.6-inch barrel. However, if you choose the 10 you gain the inherit advantages of automatic pistols, greater ammunition capacity and simpler reloads. It’s hard to go wrong with either. Why did this yahoo say a 40 was a “necked down 10mm”. While both are overkill for deer broadside, a quartering shot or front-shot the deep penetration is useful if shooting from the front (I won’t take a shot with medium a handgun if the deer is facing directly away). That’s a rule that needs the context of range, level and kind of threat, and the type of ammo. Well, it only took five hours or so. The size and shape of the round must fit into a practical grip. If we look at the history of both rounds, we’ll see some huge differences. So if you want to compare the results from our .380, 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP tests to the 10mm results below, just keep in mind that the 10mm has an “unfair advantage.” At some point in the future, we may re-test the other calibers using service size pistols and we might even come back around to 10mm and run some short barrel tests, but there are a few other calibers we’d like to test first. 10mm vs. 357 Mag Muzzle Energy. 10mm Auto Self-Defense Ammo Ballistic Gel Tests By Chris Baker So far, our ballistics gelatin testing project has covered 184 different factory loads split across today’s six most popular handgun … Biased test and waste of time. The Glock sports a 3.77 inch barrel vs the 4 inch barrel on the Smith. Repeat the tests with a 16 inch barrel (an easily suppressed 16… Read more ». Good article. Sure, launching a 92 pound bullet with a 13 pound explosive warhead at 2,300 fps has some recoil, but then again I can appreciate the energy vs both the .357 and 10mm and it does much more damage to a ballistic gel block–should I ever be attacked by a block of ballistic gel.. 180 gr. Also the Hornady ammunition preformed excellent, being very consistent and reliable. Terril wants to know which is better, 10mm Auto vs. 357 Magnum , keep reading to see his simple ballistic test results with off the shelf clear gelitain. But how would that translate in ballistic gel? I am biased however owned a .357 revolver but I love my BIG 10. I loved the 10mm, in both its full-pressure and FBI guises. It didn’t always work when defeating obstacles like steel automobile bodies, auto glass, and surplus bullet proof vests worn by the up and coming motor bandits that used more force than finesse in their crimes. In most cases, the 4.6-inch barrel of the Glock 20 will boost a bullet’s velocity by an extra ~40-90 feet per second compared to a subcompact barrel that’s an inch shorter. 10mm.41 Mag.44 Special.44 Mag.45 ACP ('08).45 ACP ('15).45 Colt.45 Super.460 Rowland.223 Rifle Acknowledgements. The 357 would have passed more easily through bone and skin , with the 10mm succeeding as well, but bone will have deformed both, preventing expansion and causing excessive penetration. We included this load in the test because it was the closest factory offering we could find to the very first 10mm load introduced back in 1983 — a 200 gr flat-nosed FMJ from Norma with an advertised velocity of 1200 fps. The 10mm is great for small squishy targets. My chief was old school and wouldn’t let us carry magnum loads, only .38+P’s. Cool video for Glock 20 fans. The year was 1935 and it became the most powerful handgun cartridge of its time with a 158 grain bullet traveling at about 1400 feet per second. I have been shooting 357 Mags since 1967. Then the bottom fell out from under the Ten—again. There seems to be a disconnect where people on this thread and even perhaps the author believe that this is optimal performance compared to the 10mm which did expand and performed within spec, which is to stop within 18 inches. It’s a shortened 10mm. Even so, the 357 Magnum ammo remains popular and is a gold standard of handgun power. Yes, two shots but the last one penatrated the skull… not a desirable situation I wish to repeat. Under his motto-Guns, Never Politics-he tackles firearm and reloading topics both in print and on his Mark3smle YouTube channel, where he got his start. Someone here chastised me for saying negative things about this authors knowledge and writing skills. I hate 1-liner homespun wisdom lol. Invalid test protocol. I know; I’m an old man shouting at the clouds. Just my .02. the average 10mm shooter like myself shoot a glock 20 with a 4 inch barrel or 5 to 6 inch 1911’s. The 10 performed as advertised and its extra velocity helped to flatten out the projectile. reminds me of 7.62×25mm Tokarev from 1930’s. While newer and better bullets have been developed for the major semi-auto service calibers over the last few decades, ammo companies have devoted comparatively few R&D resources to designing bullets specifically intended to take advantage of 10mm’s capabilities. I’ll give him an “A” for effort but I’m afraid this test doesn’t prove much. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. The ballistic… Read more », Back when it seemed like every cop in America was carrying a .357 revolver, the “gold standard” was the Federal 125 grain JHP. 10mm and 357 are both still small enough that they need to hit the CNS or the brain to immediately incapacitate aggressive targets human sized and larger, and at close range still require retention shooting and flash site picture shooting to dump rounds center mass (or a big bear head) until the threat is stopped. I added a second block, which caught the follow-up projectile. As a result, And also because of the ammo capacity advantage, my choice for a woods gun is a 10mm Glock Model 20SF loaded with 16 rounds of the Underwood 220gr LFN even though the 41 magnum is much more powerful than either the 10mm or the 357 magnum and would be the undisputed winner of the “Higher-Energy on Target” race. The Bureau summarily executed the 10mm for the even newer .40 Smith & Wesson: FBI 10mm ballistics in a 9mm-sized pistol. But in 2018, demand is higher and the 10mm is finally getting its due as an excellent hunting and defensive cartridge. Really? We followed all of the same procedures for the 10mm testing. You can’t miss fast enough so magazine capacity is a non issue. Unfortunately ballistic gel is relatively expensive. I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching! Like with any boxing match, there is more to the story and the opponents that is sometimes not taken into consideration. I have (in my limited experience had three catastrophic failures that left the weapon unusable. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare 10mm Auto vs .41 Remington Magnum ammo rounds. Yes, I have several pistols and shoot 3 gun with two of them that have been grealty modified for competition. The revolver has a 4″ bbl, and the cylinder, where as the auto loader barrel includes the chamber. For animals, the 150% expansion and the 12-18” penetration guidelines do not necessarily apply. The 10mm is a newcomer in the hunting world, but has become a big player in the market for bear hunters or anyone needing extra power. But for hunting medium game, I sold my S&W 6″ barrel .357, and kept mt Dan Wesson 5″ bbl 10mm. You can always go down in power, but can’t go up. You can also click on the graph that shows the penetration depth to get a photo of the actual bullets in the ballistic gel. I would think a 125 gr 357 vs a 180 gr 10 mm would be a better test. Likewise, it would be great to compare the rounds in longer barrel lengths. S&W 686 7Shot Unfluted Cylinder, 7inch Barrel S&W 610 Classic 6Shot Unfluted Cylinder, 6inch Barrel Surprise Ending - Watching it all the way through most of you will be interested in the additional comparison I added in. Magic guns and magic bullets. 135 gr projectiles are too light for 10mm and none of them penetrate adequately. I will stick with my G20, with 16 rounds in it. A more accurate comparison would be to par the 10mm Auto to a full-house .357 Magnum in a 5″-6″ barrel. If you’re an auto frame person, go with a Glock 10mm. The 10mm pistol cartridge has been a lot of things over its nearly four decades of existence. The 10mm has the ability to shoot heavier bullets that should, by momentum, penetrate further and cause more disruption. Take a look at my channel. Modified firearms are a key point EVEN in defensive shooting scenarios. u/Bank_Gothic. For our tests, we’ve used blocks of the synthetic Clear Ballistics gelatin rather than the organic-based 10% ordnance gelatin that the FBI standards were originally based on. That was proven true when I fired both rounds through the chronograph on two separate occasions during two test runs of each ammunition. I forget who made it but someone made a 10mm carbine (16 in barrel). So many variables go into design of caliber specific cartridges not… Read more », Proper comparison would between the most common cartridge loadings per caliber. Separate gel blocks should have been used for each measurement. This is an important reminder that every bullet performs optimally within a specific velocity window that varies depending on its design. But sub-compacts don’t seem to be very popular among 10mm fans, so we went with the full-size G20. Just saying! For some time, the only maker of 10mm guns was Glock and sometimes Colt. Today on Kentucky Ballistics we perform a ballistic gel test with 9mm, 357 Sig, 10mm and 5.7x28mm. Handgun Calibers Comparison: From Smallest to Largest [2020] The forty-caliber cartridges, .40 Smith & Wesson and its longer cousin, 10mm Automatic, offer larger, heavier bullets than most pistol cartridges without sacrificing too much in the way of velocity. Correct…studies show bear spray more effective than a firearm. However, those statements also reflect the strengths, weaknesses and ideal uses of each cartridge. That would eliminate the variable associated with a revolver. Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens. Ammunition used in today's video. Clicking on any of the column headers will sort the chart by the attribute in that column. And even a short barreled 357 is fairly heavy with a steel frame and probably only 6 or 7 round capacity. In a rifle, there is no comparason at all. You must also be a Killary lover, they all shouted at the clouds. You can find 357 Magnum revolvers readily—new and used. That said, unless you are shooting something small and squishy, a big, heavy, slow bullet is always best. 10mm ammunition is hard to find and when you find it, it is often more expensive per box than 357s. I have never liked the trigger on the Glocks even the improve versions still arnt great, Well I already have the 357 so I do believe I will purchase the new Springfield 1911 TRP™ 10MM – RMR®. Without talking about the numbers, both calibers are very impressive for power. Terril has a soft spot for ballistics testing, pocket pistols, and French rifles. The 10mm (or the 10mm Auto) was the brainchild of none other than Col. Jeff Cooper of Gunsite Academy fame. The cost for the 4.5 is about 560.00 and the 5.5 675.00. I have both and found that jacketed hollow points are only about 80% in every pistol I’ve ever owned except, for a heavily modified 1911. My problem with the article is he tested a fairly heavy for caliber 357 mag against a fairly light for caliber 10 mm. Revolvers don’t have that problem and magnum cartridges have been the mainstay of handgun power since the beginning. It simply is not practical to compare it to a run of the mill Glock or Smith. A common theme you will run into when people are discussing the 10mm Auto is that it falls into an awkward weird little crevice somewhere between the performance of a .40 S&W or 9mm and the performance of larger calibers such as the .45 ACP and .357. May be they could have bought them out in 44 AMT or 45 Mag Thank you for the info .. Hmmm, why NO mention of the .357Sig round? It was found that the new 10mm pistols were hard to control and the round was downloaded to make the 40 S&W round. The 10mm fell into obscurity with few pistols and few ammunition makers producing for the round. Both 357 Magnum tracts showed inch-wide cavities out to the first nine inches of the block. Gun calibers… Read more », This is a good point because equal bullet weight with different diameter means different sectional density. Magnum revolvers were favored by law enforcement for many years since until they were retired for increasingly reliable, higher capacity semi-automatic pistols. You would still be able to put those blocks up against each other to see the differences. A nice Delta Elite followed me home one day. Revolvers just work. The first five inches of its wound tract opened to an inch and a half before abruptly terminating into a straight path until the bullet came to rest. Recoil would be heavier, follow up shots slower, and the heavier bullet is going to excessively penetrate. )10MM all the way.. and closes in on the power of the .41 Mag., and does so in a service-sized semi-automatic pistol. The block was covered with four layers of denim. * - indicates bullets that failed to retain an average of at least 85% of their initial weight. Posted by. So… Read more ». 180 or 200 grain 10mm vs. 158 grain .357)? If you compare penetration without first comparing sectional density, you are an idiot. I decided to do just that, taking a Springfield Armory Range Officer Elite Operator 10mm 1911 and running three different 10mm loads through it and into ballistic gelatin. 10mm Ballistic Gel Test with Hornady AmmoRange Hot - March 16, 2014 […] For the updated ballistic test click here […] American Derringer in 10mm Auto, - November 5, 2014 […] I got several email requests to do a ballistic test using a few of the 10mm rounds I have tested in the past. Check out my video above to see how it all did on the range. A Coonan .357 full size or ‘çommander’ size against a similar Coonan 10mm would have been the ideal test in terms of auto vs auto, Or a Coonan full size against a 1911 in 10mm, both with five in barrels. I don’t seem to hace a need for a Underwood Ammo 10mm 180 Grain Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point Muzzle Velocity "“ 1300 fps Muzzle Energy "“ 676 ft. lbs. While hunting, I’m more prone to take a rabbit or coyote than a black bear (I live in FL). I would like to seen a comparison with the Coonan semi-auto 357. With that question in mind, it was time for my favorite past time—a fun ballistics gel test. If a round fails to go off. USA – -(Ammoland.com)- The 10mm Auto, sometimes referred to as the “357 of the Auto Pistol World”, has experienced a resurgence of late. The 10mm Auto devotees point out that the 10mm has more energy remaining at 100 yards than the .45 ACP does at the muzzle. We followed all of the same procedures for the 10mm testing. Again, the 10mm Auto is no weakling; it’s used to drop many of the largest and most dangerous animals on the planet. Limit 1 Unit, What “Unsigning” the Arms Trade Treaty Means for American Gun Owners ~ VIDEO, Gun Deals: Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 Sport 22LR 16.5″ $429.99 FREE S&H, The “Other” Model ’94 Lever Action Rifle: Marlin 94 Rifle, Second Amendment Makes Clear: Americans Are Not Subservient To Government – Part Two, Arkansas Passes Significant NFA Gun Law Reforms in 2019. 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