Think you have the two pegged pretty well. What a difference a dedicated center solo seat made! Advice. So he donated it to an auction for the Northern Forest Canoe Trail and bought a pair of Souris River Queticos, a 16-footer for solo trips and a 17-footer for tandem paddling. We have five available, all 2016 models. Your point is well taken on the bow and stern heights. In the real world of BWCA / Quetico travel I think maximum performance load on my JH18 is 600 lbs, and that’s a hull displacement of about 5". Souris River Canoes builds the highest quality lightweight epoxy-Kevlar canoes available. Note: * Souris River Canoes new and used models are subject to 5% GST and 6% PST taxes. If you want something small, even if a follow up to a large purchase it is difficult. https://paddling.com/gear/souris-river-canoes-quetico-18-5-canoe ThanksThanks for sharing your thoughts and experience Mick. It certainly looks like the cross winds would bother you less. Probably the upper limit of this canoe, but got into some 2-3’ waves on Alder and no problems. I plan to use it for solo tripping. The Quetico 16 is an excellent solo canoe as well as a solid 2 person canoe. I have been happy with both. Thanks to two inches of rocker, it’s surprisingly maneuverable for a 17-foot boat, even in narrow, twisting creeks. Souris River Quetico 17 Kevlar canoes for sale. It’s true that the Quetico 17 is not going to win any beauty contests. Does it turn OK and ride over waves well enough? If you are going up there anway and can get to Thunder Bay, ON you should find much better prices. Kind of feels like an Explorer in that it has similar primary and secondary stability, but doesn’t feel like it takes as much effort to get it moving as the Explorer does (I’m talking about the composite, not royalex Explorer). I don’t know a whole lot about them, but they look good, and use a similar system of resin/cloth. I’ve only test paddled Mad Rivers solo at a demo day, and I paddle mainly healed over Texanadian style so I never really noticed the possible issue of a shallow V rocking from one side to the other as I’ve seen mentioned by some when critiquing the shallow V. models and owned a few, The 16 in particular. They already want to come back! My Quetico 17 (green Kevlar, le tigre pattern) is the third addition to my fleet, which includes a Wenonah Sundowner 17 (royalex) and a Souris River Tranquility solo (kevlar). Paddling Souris River Quetico 16 over large waves. I agree, they look nice. It does look like it would move very well (reminds me a little of my old Sawyer Cruiser). There is also the restrictions on which canoe you can strap to a bush plane. In looking at various kevlar tripping canoes I see that the Q 16 is capacity rated similarly to the Bell Northwind kevlar and the Hemlock Eagle and only a little lower than the Q 17. If if find a used kevlar in another brand I may jump on it, but if I order a boat it is probably going to be a Souris River Q 16 or 17. Hi Deb! Last Visit: 11/01/2020 02:29AM Sort by. Text. The Quetico 18.5 is designed to be a large boat with lots and lots of capacity for gear or a third person. It is not really the fiber that you should look at with the most critical eye anyway, but the glue. The Quetico 17 is the only model we carry from the Atikokan, ON based Souris River Canoes (besides the 18.5 which is essentially a three-person version of the 17) because it’s their best and offers another level of comfort in rough waters that none of Wenonah’s models do. Here’s a link to some pics of mine, Rob. I did listen for a change and passed on the Prospector. That is very helpful. I haven’t had the Ranger to the BWCAW yet, and because of my change in health it probably won’t ever take the kind of trips I used to take. solo canoe that makes sense if you like to fish. They stated strongly absolutely no more than 16.5' even for advanced (professional was the word they used) solo paddlers! IMHO it accelerates from a stopped position quicker than any of those, but it isn’t a Bell! Grand Marais, Minnesota 55604, For a free brochure or to make a reservation: We have five available, all 2016 models. Souris River Quetico 17 Forum Sponsor. Those Ranger Otters look very interesting. 'Ol Blue actually looks white on the bottom, very little gelcoat left. It would be good if those ended up with a troop – or maybe aluminum is the only way to go there! I tried a 17 for a short paddle, but did not like it's handling as a solo at all. Boyscout was wanting it, but it's still in the barn. There was some issues expressed here on the boards about service from the importer. Souris River makes two boats in the 18 foot range. WW. Its long waterline keeps it tracking straight and makes good time on big lakes. The Quetico 17 has been recognized as the ultimate multi purpose canoe. So well re-conditioned that they are for all intents and purposes, new canoes! “Just” if you pack carefully.Capacity ratings can be deceptive. They are the Wilderness 18 and the Quetico 18.5. prospector?Souris river used to make a prospector. Debbie Mark & Staff Thats a good reminder of the hull shape. Parts for a pack system finally came after a few calls and a wait. Tried the 17.5' Prospector and loved it even in the solo position, BUT several old timers kept telling me normally no more than 16' for soloing. I had good quotes for several different Souris models, but ended up not being able to make the trips around the big lake. Really happy with mine. I remember talking to you a couple of years ago about your Q 16 but forgot that you still had access to it. WW Trying to get extra seat for 16 I was told to go to Souris direct. My decision to buy a new canoe was catalyzed by the basic fact that my 34-yr old back can no longer endure portages beneath my 65 lb Sundowner. Those Ranger pictures on Ebay are helpful also. I wanted to thank you and your team for a wonderful trip! About the WCA & CCR; Disclaimer; Privacy Policy; Copyright; Site Map; Join WCA (Three if you count the Prospector 17.5). We have five available, all 2016 models. This canoe is fast and incredibly stable. The ultimate wilderness tripping canoe - ultra-light, incredibly tough and very stable. The site: http://www.canoegear.com/html/ look under “canoes” and then both "other"s 2019 Souris River Quetico 17 – $1400 Reinforcing patch placed on the bottom of canoe over a crack caused by a falling tree during a windstorm. Souris River's epoxy resin is far superior to the poly resins used by almost all of the other manufactures. Souris River Quetico 16 vs. 17. HP piece of crap camera won't download! OK, just because a new job will keep me from making a hoped for trip to the BWCAW this summer, doesn't mean I can't dream of lake tripping canoes and plan to order one this offseason. I went to another party after doing without my extra seats for the season. Wish I had the chance to test drive one or two. A solo paddler may want to tip, or heel, the boat toward the paddling side, and a very flat-bottomed craft may make that difficult. It’s not a question of build quality, but construction method. I have paddled with my friend a Minnesota II and his Advantage. Spring Creek and one of the other outfitters had used Souris canoes every year, year around, especially 16s and 17s, but I have not seem them for the last two years. (For other solo options, check-out our Tranquility and our Prospector 16.) Thanks for the input. Home. :^( I prefer the Prospector as it fits the river stuff I like most. If you like action in your rivers and were to get two boats I would suggest a prospector and a 16 set up with three seats each. The grandkids had an experience they won’t soon forget! They still have many, many Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness adventures in them. I will drop you an email with some questions. Brand new, Souris River Quetico 18.5 in Le Tigre kevlar. Text. Souris told me to go to importer. Some of the specs like the low bow and stern hight and small amout of rocker catch my eye. Here’s a link to their website. WW Souris River Quetico 17' & 18.5' observations Forum Sponsor. ... Quetico 18.5. Our largest canoe yet. It would have no problem maneuvering on Village Creek or any of those rivers I paddled in Texas, or most here in the Ozarks except the smaller creek-like rivers. Because both boats were rated the same capacity, I think you would be fine with the Quetico 16 if your load is no more than 600 lbs. Total WeightI’m just going from the top of my head, but I think my brother and law and I were under 600 lbs on our 7 day trip a couple of years ago. A 39 lb. I studied the Q 17 bottom when we had them secured for the night on that scout trip, but darned if I remember my impressions about it 3 years later. It is still just as good as ever. After three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. Souris River Canoes. Used kevlar solo canoe perfect for fisherman or people bring along a load for extended wilderness camping. with nothing in the canoe and a stiff wind, you will fight to keep the canoe going where you want it. Now, Hellman (who was one of the souris river businesss partners before he went his own way) makes one. Tell me about the "combination shallow V/ shallow arch bottom. Kevlar Souris River Quetico 16’2″ Can also be used as a stable solo canoe. Souris River Quetico 17 . I would say the maneuverability would be similar to the Quetico 16, possibly better. http://www.rangercanoe.com/. After three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. Five Souris River Quetico 17 Kevlar canoes for sale. You’re really looking for an unusual boat, a 16 footer that can carry two guys and gear for a week and also be an efficient solo cruiser. E-mail me, Rob, as I still have access to the my old Quetico 16. canoes. Last Visit: 11/28/2020 02:42AM Sort by. SweetThanks for all the photos Terry. A couple of years ago we tripped out of Atikokan, ON with a scout troop in Q 17's. It will not handle as much as the Mad River Explorer or the Spirit II, but will solo much easier than both. Souris River Quetico 17 Kevlar canoes for sale. olwaterhound 08/19/2019 12:53PM. It turns, tracks and holds it's ground in a wind. Estimate of Q16 capacityI have a 2002 Paddler magazine buyer’s guide and my lake tripper is a Souris River Jensen Huron 18. We had two scouts and an adult in th Q 17s the year before, plus our personal gear and the really heavy food packs. October 15, 2019, ... I’ve only test paddled Mad Rivers solo at a demo day, and I paddle mainly healed over Texanadian style so I never really noticed the possible issue of a shallow V rocking from one side to the other as I’ve seen mentioned by some when critiquing the shallow V. The Quetico 16 also makes an excellent solo canoe. Had a nice long boat discussion with the guy that delivered the canoe (he delivers boats for several manufacturers in the northeast) and he told me the manufacturer of the Ranger was friends with THE Henry’s, so he’s no stranger to canoe hull design. This would further cut capacity, butwould make the 16 a better solo boat than if it were as flat bottomed as the 17. guys and a weeks gear? It excels if you are wilderness tripping, fishing or just day tripping. BUT, I have to tell you about a similar, but IMHO BETTER hull. BEST SELLER. >:^) I liked my Souris 16 tandem, but sold it to make room for some solos as I prefer them. Souris River Quetico 17 Kevlar canoes for sale. I’ve paddled it solo in the BWCAW a half dozen times and about 10-12 times tandem, and sometimes in big stuff, sometimes with a couple big guys. It’s hard to describe, but it seemed to have all the attributes of the Explorer hull, but was easier to paddle; so essentially a “Tweaked” Explorer. July 31, 2020, Seagull Canoe Outfitters Sounds GoodThanks Terry. What a nice looking canoe – pretty lines. Man, I can’t keep up with whats in your fleet!! The 17 has taken over as the main back woods horse with a little more speed and capacity, but is too long for a serious solo boat. Northwind Northstar 17 vs Souris River Quetico 17 Forum Sponsor. For sale our 2020 rental fleet of reconditioned 16', 17', and 18.5' Souris River Canoes Tucked away for the winter in our retail store. I Prefer Lower StemsNever been fond of those big 22-24" stems that catch the wind, That said, I like 20" and was a little sqeemish at going down to 19". I know you had some good times with yours. It offers an incredible balance between all of these different functions. Manufacturer's Description: Ever since the Quetico 17 was introduced in the spring of 2000 it has been getting rave reviews from paddlers and outfitters alike. I'll try again tomorrow to retrieve those pics. Remember it being reported here that they were tightening up on maximum canoe size after an increase in problems. The Souris River Quetico 17 Canoe is designed to handle everything a tripper can throw at it. They are built with wilderness in mind. We had some great Adirondack canoeing near family in NY last week across 14 lakes/ponds, 4 rivers. I think if a person took a Wenonah Adirondack, a Quetico 16, and a composite Explorer, threw them in a big pot, then mixed them together you would get this boat. As for stability, if the hulls are very similar and of equal beam, the 16’ hull will be a bit less stable than the 17’ hull. If you are an experienced solo paddler or an occasional kayaker who likes the tripping gear capacity and loading ease of a canoe, ... 17" 13.5" 15" Colours *Includes aluminum trim, ... Join Souris River Perks. Text. But, having paddled the other boats loaded and unloaded I think the Ranger would have pretty much the same volume as the Quetico 16 and possibly a hair more than the Adirondack, a bit less than the Explorer. No wonder it accounts for approximately 60% of our sales. I thought the Q 17 was a fine canoe. Three Seater sale priced to move. Lets look into that. Can’t help but think of the scout trip I was on when we used those. Does the V carry back farther to the center than most boats but not all the way? He’s got a kevlar “Blem” on E-bay for the same as a new 'glass model. WW, When Terry wins the lottery …first he will buy a real camera to replace that “freakin’ @#$%&! Tried to download pics, but this freakin' @#$%&! We rented a Bell Northwind in Kev lite and it handled things just fine. The used supply has seemed to dried up with the new higher prices in effect. My personal experiences are if you are buying a major item they are all over you trying to please. Belly seems a little bit rounder and the V of the bow and sterm steem about a quarter to a third shorter than the 17s. Later when I paddled a new 16 set up as a solo I immediately bought it! Contact (888) 266-6386. I’ll take a pic later with the Wenonah Adirondack and it’s shallow arch side by side to compare. And the lack of rocker isn’t that big a deal unless on a narrow, twisty stream. The Souris 16 was the main light pack horse tandem for years in the BWCA and Quetico. Food was great, equipment top notch and always a friendly smile! The one I test paddled was nice. Only complaint I had with the canoe was that when it was unloaded the wind tossed it around. All the new Souris have taken big leaps in price. Last Visit: 12/08/2020 04:07PM Sort by. They still have many, many Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness adventures in them. I'd prefer to own the Q16 because I often solo my tandems and imagine the Q 17 is a bit much to paddle alone. The Quetico 18.5 is the longer, wider cousin of the resulting, best-selling Souris River Quetico 17 canoe. BigCurrent ... Can you pull the thwart behind the bow seat on a Northstar 17 and then paddle solo by reversing the canoe and sitting … New price is the current season retail price. Souris River makes a fine canoe. Author. Docking describes the Quetico 18.5 as “middle of the road,” an “ideal compromise between stability and speed.” “It’s a mum, dad and two kids kind of boat. Canoes are 2016 models and after three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. Hull shapeIf I recall correctly from my insomniac surfing last night the Q 16 has a slightly more rounded bottom compared to the Q 17 which is described as flat in the very center. But from the little I know about the Souris hulls, I think you could get maybe 580 pounds in the boat with a good handling margin. Can not remember for sure, but think the small planes can not take the 17s. Text. I couldn't find rating on the Mad River Explorer kevlar or the Wenonah Spirit II. Mick. Also, how does the Q 16 compare stability wise? InterestingThanks for your thoughts on this, Terry. My impression was that it was a real sweet paddler but not the gear hauler that the Q 17 was. A meet up and paddle sounds wonderful. The Quetico 17 is our best selling model, and for good reason. We could have added another 100 lbs probably with little effect except to maybe cripple us on the portages! The last Duralite 16 I purchased was right at $1,000, but now is $2,000!) I paddle rivers quite often and I do not race. Is a good foto of the 17s.I just went out under the deck to look at my 16. Some of the Prospectors on the market might be worth looking over. When I sold it it was with the understanding that I could use it anytime I liked. I have a Quectico 17 and a Wilderness 18. Quetico 17 – 17’ 3” 44lbs. After three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. My Two CentsHave done week long trip in the BWCAW with our old Quetico 16 with me and a friend about your size, Rob. Had a lengthy post and lost it, I think P.net went off-line for awhile. Please try again later. HP piece of crap camera” Used Royalex & Kevlar Canoes For Sale available Sept 2020 Solo, Tandem, 3-Person, and 4-Person from Wenonah, Souris River and Northstar Call: 800-328-3325 | Email: Outfitting@gunflint.com Canoes must be picked up in the fall (mid September to early October 2020) or in the spring (late April HellmanSaw a fair number of folks with Hellman canoes last September in British Columbia. at least that was my experience. system. Souris River Quetico 17 Kevlar canoes for sale. Both are faster than mine but they take more effort to turn. I know you’ve spent time in lots of these boats and owned a number of them. I decided to trade up for a solo. After three seasons as rental units for Tuscarora Lodge and Canoe Outfitters on the Gunflint Trail in northeastern MN, these canoes are ready to start their new life with a single owner. Take care. I had tried it solo and was not overly impressed, but it did not have a center seat either. So my question is would the Q 16 have the capacity for a couple of 200 lb. I’d like for you to try this boat before you buy a Quetico since the prices of the Souris have risen to the moon. I have the Ranger Otter and it has a similar feel as the Quetico 16, and Mad River Explorer but IMHO it’s a better paddling boat than ANY of the others mentioned except the Bell’s. Try This AgainI’ll make this short and sweet. SR hasn’t made the Jensen Huron since 2001. I do not even look at the new ones any longer. Author. Prospectors vary quite a bit in speed and maneuverability, but can offer great capacity. As I recall, the Souris is a bit fuller going toward the ends, and that gives the 17 extra capacity. Author. Don’t know about the 16. With the Duralight you do not need the expence of kevlar. http://www.pbase.com/ozarkpaddler/ranger_canoe. We have five available, all 2016 models. Last canoe in stock for the season. Up sizing the plane can cost a lot more! Then I thought wait a minute, I’ve used a Wenonah Adirondack has a 19.5" bow and I believe 16" stern. The Prospector 16 also makes an excellent solo canoe. It’s a family boat,” … 12208 Gunflint Trail Good speed and seaworthiness and incredible stability. ** Le Tigre is a visually impressive color combination of … Did you get another Adirondak? Souris River Quetico 17 Canoe; souris-river-17; For information or reservations call: 218-388-2216. The hull is a shallower “V” than the Mad River, but is from stem to stem. Will make this short as you have a lot of good info already, especially from Terry. Good to see those Duralites at Spring Creek. No bottom shots, but several angles and close ups of the trim. My 1st Wenonah. Author. (Best educated guess is loss of new business tax breaks and environmental issues drove prices up. Hope helps a little. Is a Souris River Quetico 17 decent on rivers? Whether you use this canoe for fishing, day outings or short to medium wilderness tripping, you will be delighted with its versatility. Jami Philip, 42, an Assistant City Clerk in Scandia, Minnesota, loves her Souris River Quetico 17. Stearns Family E-mail: seagull@seagulloutfitters.com, Copyright © 2020 Seagull Canoe Outfitters | All Rights Reserved, COVID-19 Cleaning Guidelines for Seagull Outfitters Cabins in 2021. That is a pretty cool deal keeping the borrow back rights! Anyway this buyer’s guide lists the maximum performance burden (as supposedly recommended by the manufacturer) for both the Q16 and the JH18 at 650 lbs. Mick, Just checked Spring Creek.They have in stock some used Souris 17s, but no 16s. … then he’ll buy some more canoes, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, -- Last Updated: Jun-24-06 8:38 PM EST --, http://www.pbase.com/ozarkpaddler/ranger_canoe. Main menu. You actually get the benefit of … Phone: 218-388-2216 Supports my thinking on the 17’s marginal suitability for soloing. Also, he has a few on E-nay right now. This feature is not available right now. If you are primarilary going tandum with gear please look at the new 17' Souris. Seemed plenty tough too and with the scouts you know even with good intention and effort they got banged around some. The beam is a inch narrower also. ... Join Souris River Perks. As a result it is excellent for both novices & experienced paddlers. Could see getting into trouble in weather if lone paddling. Let me know, maybe we can meet somewhere and you could try both boats. 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