Messages: 259 Likes Received: 0. I would say that said handgun would be good for hunting near to 200 yards in ideal circumstances. sighted in Glock 20 with 6 barrel,shooting 180 grain double tap. EDUCATION 101. In other words, 10mm … specifications are nominal ballistics figures established in test barrels. The .45 ACP was developed in the late 1800s by the legendary John Moses Browning to answer the US military’s demand for a more powerful cartridge to supersede the then-standard-issue Colt Model 1892 New Army. For some it’s 200 yards, for others it’s a sniper shot out to 2000 yards. The 10mm auto cartridge with a height of 0.992" has an average speed of 1199 fps from a 6" barrel and has an average 546 foot pounds per square inch of … Fans of the .45 ACP counter that the .45 is bigger at 100 yards than the 10mm … ... 10mm … In my opinion, the 10mm hits the sweet spot of power, firepower, recoil, and range for a handgun round. But both have advantages over the other. I would personally treat the 10mm in a handgun just like I do a 357. So, with muzzle velocities fluctuating around 1000 fps and heavy grained bullets around 200 or so it seems the round is pretty flat to 100 yards and can be easily zeroed at this range. Ballistics. With hand loads, you can load a .357 to that power level without exceeding maximum load specifications. As the caliber of choice of the FBI’s Hostage Rescue Teams, when your operational effectiveness has no room for compromise, Aguila 10mm … For factory Federal ammo, you are stuck with .41 Mag, .44 … NTX® 83176 2050 1450 1070 —145 72 39 -1 5 0 -156 And yet you can expect acceptable accuracy out to at least 100 yards with iron sights and maybe to 200 yards with an optic. I used to shoot small bore pistol steel silhouettes some 30 years ago when I was in my teens. There was a problem when the app spit out the data for 1,000 yards though–48.3 minutes of elevation was beyond our adjustment range. 10mm also qualifies for Major Power Factor status in competitive shooting events (IPSC, USPSA, NRA Action Pistol, IDPA) that measure and otherwise give a darn about PF. 200 gn 10mm max load from fully supported 6" barrel ca 1400fps w/ estimated BC. At the time, I could knock down 8 out of 10 rams at 200 yards consistently on calm days. zero at 110yds would leave 3" high at 60 and 7.6" low at 150 yds w/ 452 Ft/Lbs at 1024 fps. It is open-source and compiled and ran for me on Mac OS X pretty easily. That level of accuracy and horsepower can dominate for hunting, survival, home defense and everyday carry. MEET THE NEW BOSS. The .357 Sig and 10mm does not even come close. At 100 yards, the 10mm has an average kinetic energy of 377ft.lb while the .45 ACP has an average of 355ft.lb. If you’re interested in all the gritty details of how we conducted these tests, you might want to take a look at the test protocols and procedures outlined in the article accompanying our first batch of ballistics gel testing from back in 2015. energy of a 10mm at 100 yards Discussion in 'The 10 Ring' started by cablecutter, Feb 1, 2012. And because it is so much heavier, it carries significantly more energy at all distances as well. On the one hand, a soft ‘defense’ style bullet can lack the ability to produce optimum penetration on larger bodied … Harry1969, Oct 24, 2014 #1. The 10 has an average fps of 1199 if you take all the known rounds and divide accordingly, it has and average grain of 171 although they don't sell 171 grain bullets of course, it also delivers 546 lbs of energy at muzzle. A 300gr revolver fired bullet will drop 12 inches after 150 yards, 32 inches after 200 yards and 106 inches after 300 yards. ~ Underwood XTP. 10mm. 160 Videos. The 10mm Auto cartridge was originally drafted and championed by Lieutenant Colonel John Dean "Jeff" Cooper, and referred to as the ".40 Super" (not to be confused with the .40 Super cartridge developed in 1996). 100% . Cartridge Type: HandgunHeight: 0.992"Width: 0.425"Average FPS: 1199Average Energy: 546Average Gr: 171Recoil: 0.96Power Rank: 4.1 of 7. Buffalo's Outdoors. Ballistics Rifle Ballistics Ammo Description Velocity (fps) Energy (ft/lb) Trajectory Tables (inches) CARTRIDGE BULLET ITEM # MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd V 17 Mach 2 15.5 gr. The recoil is there, but a .357 snubby is way worse, and 180 grains at 1300 fps is effective on anything short of a moose at under 100 yards – and with practice, one can hit at 100 with a 10mm. Defiantly doable, I've shot my 10mm 1911 at 50 yards a bit, I don't think I'll push past that with the open sights. Even when they share the same bullet weight and type, a round by Hornady can behave very differently from one by Prvi Partizan. 10mm 100 yard Ballistics! The overall winner of our 10mm Auto ammo test was the Underwood 150-grain Xtreme Hunter load. A common theme you will run into when people are discussing the 10mm Auto is that it falls into an awkward weird little crevice somewhere between the performance of a .40 S&W or 9mm and the performance of larger calibers such as the .45 ACP and .357. Joined: Jan 21, 2010 Location: Provo, UT. It tracks the movement of the bullet in zero wind conditions, and out to 100 yards. If you plan on hunting with your 10mm, this will certainly help. I shot in both Any Sight and Iron Sight classes as well as Freestyle using the Creedmore as noted by Ryushin, as well as the Dead Frog depending in weather. Namely in terms of bullet drop, and steel plate knockdown power. I find there are more affordable ammunition and handgun choices for the .40 S&W than there are for the 10mm, so if budget is a factor on making a decision, the .40 S&W has an edge. I would say that said handgun would be good for hunting near to 200 yards in ideal circumstances. 10mm 100 yard Ballistics! Caliber: 10mm … Sighting-in a pistol to hit a certain number of inches high at 25, 50, or 100 yards (or meters) maximizes the point blank range of the gun and cartridge and is superior to zeroing at a fixed distance. Cat I've used it on bear in the north and hogs down Texas way,bear was about 50yards away,took 2shots to put it down.Hogs we were shooting @ 75 to 100 yards was pretty darned effective on them.Used a Spfld TRP 10mm… Print; Feb 1, 2012 #1 . A 10mm projectile at 100 yards will, depending on same, drop anywhere from 1.1 inches to not at all. Thread Tools. What are the ballistics of the .40 S&W cartridge at ranges of 100 yards and longer? Level 4 Plate Carrier Insert Dissection ~ Innards vs Handgun Rounds. Maximum damage becomes very handy when you’re in dangerous situations and the 45 is going to give you the largest bullet expansion. Sometimes when I go out to the desert and have some extra milk jugs I will set them up at 100 yards (paced) and shoot them with my Witness. The six-inch barrel provides an excellent sight radius which is necessary for precise long-range shooting. The remaining energy of these loads is 715 ft. lbs. I basically limit the range to less than 50 yards. You are shooting steel targets from 40-100 yards with your EDC if you want. 160 Videos. In other words, 10mm is better at long range. And yet you can expect acceptable accuracy out to at least 100 yards with iron sights and maybe to 200 yards with an optic. 10mm. Finally got to take a whitetail with it this season. Ballistics. 170 Views. The Model 1892 is a double-action revolver chambered for the .38 Long Colt which is the weaker parent cartridge of the .38 Specialthat’s still in use today and is regarded as the lowest power revolver cartridge ac… This time, we're looking at what pistol ammo does at 100 yards. If you want to, you can also shoot in the big bore class like I did back in the day which starts at 60 yards … It’s flatter trajectory as a result of it’s shape and velocity ensures that it can travel a longer distance than any other auto pistol round. Buffalo's Outdoors. I think the 10mm never received it's due most likely because of the American love for the 45 ACP, and the fact that there just isn't a niche to be filled,and if there is no problem then no one wants to buy a solution. .40 Smith & Wesson, .380 Auto (9mm Browning Short), .280 Remington, .260 Remington, 6.5x57 Mauser, .375 Remington Ultra Magnum, .38 Special (.38 Smith & Wesson Special), .41 Remington Magnum, .375 Dakota, .220 Swift, .480 Ruger, 6mm Remington, .284 Winchester, .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (HMR), 7mm Dakota. 10mm.41 Mag.44 Special.44 Mag.45 ACP ('08).45 ACP ('15).45 Colt.45 Super.460 Rowland.223 Rifle ... as he not only helped get most of our ammunition and other supplies, he was the brilliant gunsmith who … May 6, 2020. My lcrx shoots about 12 inches low . The 10mm is a hard hitting cartridge that will take care of business assuming you can find the ammo. 10mm ammunition (left) compared to its sibling, the 40 S&W Is 10mm ammunition closer to the 357 or 41 magnum in power? .45 Auto (.45 ACP), .416 Weatherby Magnum, .460 Smith & Wesson, .250 Savage, .45 Winchester Magnum, 5mm Remington Rimfire Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, 10mm Auto, .460 Weatherby Magnum, .577 Tyrannosaur, .32 Smith & Wesson Long, .30 M1 Carbine, .38 Super Auto Colt, .41 Remington Magnum, .378 Weatherby Magnum. Nice, I am happy to hit 25 yards out with my Eclipse. And the +p .45 round outperforms several 10mm rounds at this range. I wish he was still around as he had some awesome molds that he custom ordered, and is what I am working at with my designs. Will this round work for self-defense? 100 yards for both of these rounds is pretty tough given their ballistic properties, but that’s just the data. I used to shoot small bore pistol steel silhouettes some 30 years ago when I was in my teens. It has almost no drop … The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'! Even adding in the stadia lines in the reticle we were coming up short. cablecutter. Then there were the two 10mm loads I tested from Hornady. It’s time for another edition of Stuff John and Chris Wanna Know! 25 yard zero 50 yard zero 100 yard zero And with 3/4" above bore 25 yard zero 50 yard zero 100 yard zero I use a program called saballistics to generate this data. RIFLE BALLISTICS. MC1sc Concealed Carry from Mossberg . After that, it starts to drop, and quite precipitously. ~ Underwood XTP. According to Federal's ballistics data, the minimum caliber would be a .41 Mag. KRISS Vector 10mm SDP-SB Enhanced Specs. Level IV Ceramic Plate Carrier Inserts. All these specs put it just a bit faster and stronger than the 45 ACP, but with a smaller bullet. This … I had a Ruger Mark II with a 10" bull barrel that I used to do quite well with so long ago. This system maximizes the distance in which no "hold over" is necessary. *Casing image above is an artist rendering and not a real photo of 10mm Auto Ballistics cartridge. From a rifle, the bullet drop is 15 inches at 200 yards, 55 inches at 300 yards, and 240 inches at 500 yards. While we have went to great lengths to make sure that it's as accurate as possible this rendering should not be used to generate specs for casings. As for the 10mm auto (.400 inch bullet diameter), velocities with Federal 180 grain Hydra-Shok ammo from a five inch barrel are 1069 fps and 1220 fps from a 16 inch barrel. But the 45 gives great diameter and has stood the test of time. Everything was on point. The 10mm can reach out past 100 yards, and carries more energy at that distance than a 45acp does from point blank range. We'd like to personally and specifically thank Pat Childs at Fin & Feather in Iowa City, as he not only helped get most of our ammunition and other supplies, he was the brilliant gunsmith who worked with us to make this insane project much more practical. A natural competitor to the .308 Winchester, many people wonder what the ballistics of the .30-06 actually are? Optimal Usage/ Performance . By Buffalo's Outdoors. Ryushin Member. Range Dual. That ballistic trajectory seems fairly standard for a 44-40 round. --> Get your 10mm Ammo from our friends at AmmunitionToGo.com <--: Blazer Ammunition … Out to 75 yards a 10 yard zero stays within 2 inches of point-of-aim, and has less drop at 100 yards, so that’s what I went with. All the ballistics from all manufacturers, finally... in one place. Login with username, password and session length. It was designed to be a medium-velocity pistol cartridge with better external ballistics … the 155-grain XTPs and 175-grain Critical Duty rounds are rated for 1,150 and 1,250 fps, respectively. For standing class I used the 'Taco' hold where your off hand held the gun and the scope, fingers over the top of the scope, gripping it, and thumb under the forend, just ahead of the trigger gaurd. The 10mm Auto is a round that was created back in 1982 as a Swedish round, and it never really has caught on very mainstream here in the United States, but it's a fairly hard hitting quality round nonetheless. Bullet weight measured in grains, velocity in fps by chronograph and accuracy in inches for best five-shot groups at 50 yards. This is a 9mm Luger ballistics chart (external) generated using our ballistic trajectory calculator. 100% . Finally, a 220 grain bullet in 10mm or .44 caliber with a muzzle … 10mm vs 44 Magnum Ballistics. Thread Tools. The 10mm Auto devotees point out that the 10mm has more energy remaining at 100 yards than the .45 ACP does at the muzzle. May 6, 2020. After measuring the guns’ accuracy at 50 yards—and achieving excellent results—it was time for some drills at the Echo Valley Training Center. With that in mind, exactly what are the ballistics of the 44 Magnum? We'd like to personally and specifically thank Pat Childs at Fin & Feather in Iowa City, as he not only helped get most of our ammunition and other supplies, he was the brilliant gunsmith who worked with us to make this insane project much more practical. Quote from: Denver1911 on January 11, 2015, 05:05:31 AM, Quote from: Pinsnscrews on January 13, 2015, 03:29:52 AM, http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=121, Quote from: sqlbullet on January 13, 2015, 07:45:24 AM. By Buffalo's Outdoors. 25 yard zero. Great blood trail. Ballistic … Here is a table I got from JBM ballistics. The remaining energy of these loads is 715 ft. lbs. at 100 yards. The_Shadow March 5, 2018 at 3:26 pm # Thanks Hunter for the review of the Hi-Point 1095TS 10mm Carbine, it has been one that many have waited for… Reply. 8 Likes. 10mm is a very flat shooting cartridge that has minimal drop out to 100 yards. Charles S Member. ~ Underwood XTP. Using the Kimber Target LS to … At 1000 yards the .30-06 round has dropped around 30 feet (350 inches). 10mm Auto-Blazer (CCI) TMJ, 10mm Auto-Ultramax FMJ, 10mm Auto-Hornady JHP/XTP, 10mm Auto-Federal Hydra-Shok JHP, 10mm Auto-Cor-Bon JHP, 10mm Auto-Cor-Bon JHP, 10mm Auto-Hornady JHP/XTP, 10mm Auto-Cor-Bon Bonded Core SP, 10mm Auto-Cor-Bon Glaser Safety Slug, 10mm Auto-Cor-Bon Pow'RBall, 10mm Auto-UMC (Remington) Metal Case, 10mm Auto-Hornady JHP/XTP, 10mm Auto-Cor-Bon JHP, 10mm Auto-Winchester Silvertip Hollow Point, 10mm Auto-American Eagle (Federal) FMJ. Red Oak, White, or Chestnut for Deer Herd? Haley Strategic shows a pistol caliber SMG can get combat effective hits out to 300 yards. The 10mm is really a big fast 40 S&W, or rather a 40 S & W is really a small slow 10mm as the 10mm is about 10 years older. … 200 gn 10mm max load from fully supported 6" barrel ca 1400fps w/ estimated BC. zero at 110yds would leave 3" high at 60 and 7.6" low at 150 yds w/ 452 Ft/Lbs at 1024 fps. How to Sight in a Scope - Step by Step Guide. 10mm.41 Mag.44 Special.44 Mag.45 ACP ('08).45 ACP ('15).45 Colt.45 Super.460 Rowland.223 Rifle Acknowledgements. Picked up a Hi-Point in .40 the other day, and it's got a 4x30 scope on it. Handguns chambered for 10mm will fit more rounds in the mag compared to .45 ACP handguns. It's time for another edition of Stuff John and Chris Wanna Know! I've been a lurker for more then six months since I got my first 10mm Kimber Eclipse. TriStar Viper G2 .410 Turkey Part II ~ Versatility. Sent by a right hand on a mobile with Tapatalk. As always, we have to preface a comparison of two rounds’ ballistic performance with a caveat: Performance contrasts remarkably between different manufacturers’ cartridges. The 300 yard hits are a bit of a stretch but it can be done. I had a Ruger Mark II with a 10" bull barrel that I used to do quite … 46 yards through the lungs. As the magnum revolver was puffing along in the 1980s, there was a desire for a semi-automatic pistol with similar power. The 10mm is also hard to find when you compare it to the most popular American handgun cartridges, and people complain that the speed that the cartridge projects the bullet is just to fast and it causes over penetration. Cartridge Type: HandgunHeight: 0.992\"Width: 0.425\"Average FPS: 1199Average Energy: 546Average Gr: 171Recoil: 0.96Power Rank: 4.1 of 7The 10mm Auto is a round that was created back in 1982 as a Swedish round, and it never really has caught on very mainstream here in the United States, but it's a fairly hard hitting quality round nonetheless.I think the 10mm never received it's due most likely because of the America… Compare all 44 Magnum ammunition manufacturers on one easy to read chart. Calibers tested were 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and .357 Sig. Paper ballistics with standard factory loads show the 10mm … What is the bullet trajectory at 50,75 and 100 yards. Complete 44 magnum ammunition ballistics Chart. All the delivered energy of a .45, in a lighter, faster, and significantly more accurate round. 10mm 100 yard Ballistics! 2 Comments. If you know thanks for info . Figure it could come in handy for 3-gun, if it can still hit and then knock down steel targets at 100 yards. The SWC design he made got me a deer, and 350lb wild pig and a couple of Turkeys. If you want to go further or apply wind resistnece then use custom seetings with our ballistic calculator. Thus the 10mm Auto was born, firing a 40 … Here is a table I got from JBM ballistics. I use wwb 115 ball ammo . At 300 yards it has dropped around 6 inches, and at 500 yards it’s just under 44 inches. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. 5 Responses to Hi-Point 1095TS 10mm Carbine, getting a bit more from the 10. In summary the 10mm is a great cartridge that has great potential but unfortunately no niche needs to to filled as the 40 and the 45 seem to be at the moment very popular cartridges and the 10mm falls in between in terms of performance. The 10mm Auto devotees point out that the 10mm has more energy remaining at 100 yards than the .45 ACP does at the muzzle. It yielded 1.24-inch average and .53-inch best groups at 25 yards. Put simply, ballistics gelatin is only good for testing how bullets perform in ballistics gelatin. However, those statements also points to the strengths, weaknesses and ideal uses of respective cartridge. Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Ryushin, Jan 10, 2015. 10mm and 100 Yards. I used to shoot IHMSA back in the day. Does anyone know how to determine what the energy of a 10mm round is at 100 yards. Of course, the actual distance the bullet should hit above the point of aim at 100 yards (or 100 meters, which is about 108 yards… 170 Views. Finally, a 220 grain bullet in 10mm or .44 caliber with a muzzle velocity on the order of 2,000 fps would be devastating to any human attacker with proper bullet construction designed for higher velocities. First things first: The MSR-15 was zeroed at 100 yards and then we tried out the accuracy of the ballistic app by pinging steel at 300 yards. Here is a screen capture of his hits using a 25 yard zero. Ballistic Coefficient: 0.145 G1 We got incredible 2moa in 18mph gusts 100 yard short barrel 10mm 159gr results with e3 at 92-98% of red dot data but extremely careful precision charhe manual loading & winchester large / magnum primers. As you can see the table below, both of these statements are true. Both the 10mm and .45ACP are considered prime rounds for self and home-defense as well as for hunting dangerous game. Even more impressive was Underwood’s 150-grain Xtreme Hunter, the second-most accurate ammunition of the entire test (1.24 average, .53-inch best groups at 25 yards… I used to shoot my scoped blackhawk at 100 yards almost every weekend and … The 140-grain load printed very consistent groups that averaged 1.34 inches at 25 yards, with 738 ft-lbs of energy. Thank you for the welcome Shadow. We followed all of the same procedures for the 10mm testing. I used a Glock with handloads and 200gr hard cast round nose bullets. The PowerRank is an estimation of the cartridge power. 50 yards is a couple inches high and the 100 yard hits are opening up but close to the 25 yard … Yes the 10mm is a fairly flat shooting round inside and out to 100 yards, beyond that it can drop more than 10" Buffalo Bore has some trajectory charts shown; if you study these charts and get to know … Muzzle Velocity: 1,008 fps; Muzzle Energy: 406 ft/lbs; Velocity at 100 yards: 917 fps .45ACP. Been shooting this ammo since Glock released the G40 long slide 10mm. yards. And if you run into that sentiment, you will usually find an argument against it following soon after. I would choose the .45 ACP over the 10mm for … The 10mm Auto cartridge was originally drafted and championed by Lieutenant Colonel John Dean "Jeff" Cooper, and referred to as the ".40 Super" (not to be confused with the .40 Super cartridge developed in 1996). We started out at 25 yards and easily achieved 1 1/2″ groups, ... 10mm Auto ballistic test, updated. 44 Magnum: JSP: 240: 741: 1180: 44 Magnum : PG: 250: 840: 1230: 44 Magnum: PTHP: 250: 867: 1250: 44 Magnum: HSP: 240: 741: 1180: 44 Magnum: STHP: 210: 729: 1250 . 8 Likes. Deer ran 15 yards and piled up. How relevant this depends on what you plan on doing with these rounds. The sighting axis of my red dot scope is about 2" above the bore axis, so from ballistics tables I figured the Point Of Impact to be about .9" below the Point Of Aim at 25 yards would approximate a 100-yard zero for my 150-grain .308 FMJ BTHP. 100: add to compare: velocity (fps) 2365: 2060: 1780: 1529: 1315: 1150: energy (ft-lb) 1527: 1159: 865: 638: 472: 361: drop chart: trajectory (inches)-2.0: 0.0-6.3-23.6-55.9-108.3 : use only in firearms designated for this cartridge and so recommended by the manufacturer. The short version is that we fired five rounds of each load into a block of Clear Ballistics synthetic gelatin arranged in line wit… Joined: Aug 22, 2013 Messages: 23 Location: Castle Rock, CO. I put up a 3 by 4 paper at 100 yards with a bullseye in center with xdm 3.8 & 4.5 I hit the paper almost all the time . Absolutely. A scope mount that attached to the frame was used with a Bushnell Handgun scope. Dan I should have done a little research. When looking for the typically longer range cartridges, eventually people wonder about the .308 Winchester, and what its range might be. I have searched but I can't find it. That is good shooting, and shows what a lighter weight bullet in 10mm is capable of. Fans of the .45 ACP counter that the .45 is bigger at 100 yards than the 10mm is at the muzzle. Per Chuck Hawks Handgun Trajectory Table, a 9mm Para projectile will - depending on the grain weight and velocity - drop anywhere from 1.7 inches to 3.4 inches at 100 yards. 10mm vs 40 Smith & Wesson. Standing, 2-handed I average 50% hits. Ryushin, Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your experience. A 10mm projectile at 100 yards will, depending on same, drop anywhere from 1.1 inches to not at all.